Muho talks about Hyakujo’s fox and Joshu’s cat, January 31st 2018
Short English Q & A at the very end (2:07:00)!
Shobogenzo Zuimonki
Book 1 Chapter 6
(quoted from: global.sotozen-net.or.jp/common_html/zuimonki/01-06.html)
Once Ejo asked,
“What is the meaning of not being blind to cause and effect?” ①
Dogen replied, “Not moving cause and effect.”
Ejo asked, “How can we be released then?”
Dogen said, “Cause and effect are self-evident.” ②
Ejo inquired further, “Then does cause bring about effect or does effect bring about cause?”
Dogen said, “If it is so in every case, what about Nansen’s ③ killing the cat? When his students could not say anything, Nansen immediately killed the cat. Later, when Joshu heard about the incident, he put his straw sandal on his head and went out. This was excellent action.”
Dogen added, “If I had been Nansen, I would have said, ‘If you cannot speak, I will kill it; even if you can speak, I will kill it. Who would fight over a cat? Who can save the cat? On behalf of the students, I would have said, ‘We are not able to speak, Master. Go ahead and kill the cat!’ Or, I would have said for them, ‘Master, you only know about cutting it (the cat) into two with one stroke, yet you do not know about cutting it into one with one stroke.’”
Ejo asked, “How do you cut it into one with one stroke?”
Dogen said, “The cat itself.”
Dogen added, “If I had been Nansen, when the students could not answer, I would have released the cat saying that the students had already spoken. An ancient master said, ‘When the great-function manifests itself, no fixed rules exist.’”
Dogen also said, “This action of Nansen’s that is, cutting the cat, is a manifestation of the […]